Comments on: Compatability problems with Word 2007 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/ XPloring the alternatives Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:23:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.9 by: Furry Squid http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-39371 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:59:35 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-39371 Um....... daft question, but where's the back button in word 2007? I'm trying to edit a document consiting of 400-ish cros-references at approx 10 ref/page, and can't work out how I navigate between them. (Other than than, based on two days' experience of a new PC, Vista a pain in the bum, and new style word doubly so!) Um……. daft question, but where’s the back button in word 2007? I’m trying to edit a document consiting of 400-ish cros-references at approx 10 ref/page, and can’t work out how I navigate between them.

(Other than than, based on two days’ experience of a new PC, Vista a pain in the bum, and new style word doubly so!)

]]> by: Diane http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-34544 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:50:24 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-34544 The bottom line is that if you have to buy a new computer, with few exceptions, you will be forced to deal with the new Vista OS. I fully expected to be able to import my WORD 2002 docs into WORD 2007. However, they are not compatible for others who are using earlier versions of WORD, which is still the majority of businesses and individuals. The problem is not saving them as WORD 2003 compatible in WORD 2007, but that you have to do it for each and every document. There is no quick fix. It is very time consuming. Additionally, Outlook 2002 is not completely compatible with Vista, so I was forced to also purchase Outlook 2007. The fact that these basics issues are not disclosed to new Vista users who have been using Office programs for years is no less than unconsionable on behalf of Microsoft, their retailers and marketers. Customers would not be so upset if they new what and how much they would be required to spend and the amount of time wasted in figuring out these problems after the fact. Oh, and the new user interfaces in Vista and Office are completely different too, so you better ante up for a manual too! The bottom line is that if you have to buy a new computer, with few exceptions, you will be forced to deal with the new Vista OS. I fully expected to be able to import my WORD 2002 docs into WORD 2007. However, they are not compatible for others who are using earlier versions of WORD, which is still the majority of businesses and individuals. The problem is not saving them as WORD 2003 compatible in WORD 2007, but that you have to do it for each and every document. There is no quick fix. It is very time consuming. Additionally, Outlook 2002 is not completely compatible with Vista, so I was forced to also purchase Outlook 2007.

The fact that these basics issues are not disclosed to new Vista users who have been using Office programs for years is no less than unconsionable on behalf of Microsoft, their retailers and marketers. Customers would not be so upset if they new what and how much they would be required to spend and the amount of time wasted in figuring out these problems after the fact. Oh, and the new user interfaces in Vista and Office are completely different too, so you better ante up for a manual too!

]]> by: Nico http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-32109 Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:26:53 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-32109 With all respect to OpenOffice - which I like - or MS Office - which I hate- none of them come close to LaTex when it comes to submitting papers with equations. The real question, therefore, is not which Office package is the best for that purpose but rather whether Office packages are appropriate for article submission. The answer is: no. LaTex is really easy to learn, multi-platform, much better quality, extremely well documented online and... free. My personal way of writing papers: 1. write the text with NO formating in your text editor of choice (from notepad to gedit to office software, it really doesn't matter as you don't do any formatting) 2. Once I'm happy with the content, it's a matter of copy and paste inside a .tex file with the adjustments for math expressions. 3. put the citation in the right format using BibTex. 4. download the right LaTex format from the editor 5. run a bit of magic and voila! every thing is formated automatically (text, automated bibliography, etc) and saved in dvi or pdf. Most publishers not only accept LaTex files but actually encourage them. Simply no competition here with office(s) my 2.5 cents for tonight. With all respect to OpenOffice - which I like - or MS Office - which I hate- none of them come close to LaTex when it comes to submitting papers with equations. The real question, therefore, is not which Office package is the best for that purpose but rather whether Office packages are appropriate for article submission. The answer is: no. LaTex is really easy to learn, multi-platform, much better quality, extremely well documented online and… free.
My personal way of writing papers:
1. write the text with NO formating in your text editor of choice (from notepad to gedit to office software, it really doesn’t matter as you don’t do any formatting)
2. Once I’m happy with the content, it’s a matter of copy and paste inside a .tex file with the adjustments for math expressions.
3. put the citation in the right format using BibTex.
4. download the right LaTex format from the editor
5. run a bit of magic and voila! every thing is formated automatically (text, automated bibliography, etc) and saved in dvi or pdf. Most publishers not only accept LaTex files but actually encourage them. Simply no competition here with office(s)
my 2.5 cents for tonight.

]]> by: Velozity http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-31536 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:05:37 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-31536 I am an Office 2000 user. I was very happy with it until I downloaded the Office 2007 Trial versions. My poor laptop does not have enough memory to do anything much when any Word doc is open. There is so much crap on the 2007 Word that I will never use and everything is so conveniently NOT organized for anything I need to do. I know, I hate change, like anyone else. But as a writer who mainly does text documents with no graphics, footnotes, etc., Word sucks for me now. I guess I will have to go indie and use some generic program that's not as complex, and not as compatible with other applications. I have only ever tried OpenOffice, which I absolutely hated. I am going to become one of those crotchety people who just like what I know, I guess, as I did not feel welcomed as a new user at all by Word the way I did with Word 2000. My 2 cents. I am an Office 2000 user. I was very happy with it until I downloaded the Office 2007 Trial versions. My poor laptop does not have enough memory to do anything much when any Word doc is open. There is so much crap on the 2007 Word that I will never use and everything is so conveniently NOT organized for anything I need to do. I know, I hate change, like anyone else. But as a writer who mainly does text documents with no graphics, footnotes, etc., Word sucks for me now. I guess I will have to go indie and use some generic program that’s not as complex, and not as compatible with other applications. I have only ever tried OpenOffice, which I absolutely hated. I am going to become one of those crotchety people who just like what I know, I guess, as I did not feel welcomed as a new user at all by Word the way I did with Word 2000. My 2 cents.

]]> by: Superman http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-27541 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:14:25 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-27541 "well. I simply LOVE office, and I think it’s the best piece of software in the world." "This whole offie [sic] blog is bogus." (Batman) Hey, "batman"... What if I told you that many of my Word 2003 documents **won't even open** in Word 2007? Those of you who think that Word 2007 is that great probably don't work with big documents (500 + paged) with lots of frames and textboxes. Word 2007 is a huge disappointment because of that issue. OpenOffice or Textmaker open these 500 + pages documents without a hitch. Sorry. “well. I simply LOVE office, and I think it’s the best piece of software in the world.”

“This whole offie [sic] blog is bogus.” (Batman)

Hey, “batman”… What if I told you that many of my Word 2003 documents **won’t even open** in Word 2007? Those of you who think that Word 2007 is that great probably don’t work with big documents (500 + paged) with lots of frames and textboxes.

Word 2007 is a huge disappointment because of that issue. OpenOffice or Textmaker open these 500 + pages documents without a hitch.

Sorry.

]]> by: Francis http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-27350 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:05:27 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-27350 "I can’t think of anybody still using older versions" Really? I still have Word 97 at home, and use Word 2k at work, although I wish I didn't have to. It's still clunky and temperamental (especially with paragraph numbering) but MS is much keener to add bells and whistles than to iron out bugs. I bought Ashampoo Office recently, and am well impressed. Very fast, and can be installed on a memory stick to use anywhere. I'd use Zoho, but the WP lacks some key features at the moment. The on-line filing and version number control is impressive, though. If you're in the UK, you can buy Ability Office (a decent clone) for £13 from Ebuyer. It's own-label, but no worse for that. “I can’t think of anybody still using older versions”

Really? I still have Word 97 at home, and use Word 2k at work, although I wish I didn’t have to.

It’s still clunky and temperamental (especially with paragraph numbering) but MS is much keener to add bells and whistles than to iron out bugs.

I bought Ashampoo Office recently, and am well impressed. Very fast, and can be installed on a memory stick to use anywhere. I’d use Zoho, but the WP lacks some key features at the moment. The on-line filing and version number control is impressive, though.

If you’re in the UK, you can buy Ability Office (a decent clone) for £13 from Ebuyer. It’s own-label, but no worse for that.

]]> by: Batman http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-25013 Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:18:58 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-25013 This whole offie blog is bogus. First it's really easy to save a document in the format for the previouse verions of Word. Second (I know this for fact I tested it), if somebody using Word 2003 (only tested on that version, cause I can't think of anybody still using older versions) open a .docx it will give them the option to download a compatibilty patch, thus allowing them to view the document. This whole offie blog is bogus. First it’s really easy to save a document in the format
for the previouse verions of Word.
Second (I know this for fact I tested it), if somebody using Word 2003 (only tested on
that version, cause I can’t think of anybody still using older versions) open a .docx
it will give them the option to download a compatibilty patch, thus allowing them to
view the document.

]]> by: Andrea http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-24842 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:06:38 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-24842 well. I simply LOVE office, and I think it's the best piece of software in the world. No, i'm not a microsoft fanatic, I use linux for development and openoffice too... but honestly MS Office has a user experience out of the world. I use office2007, and can save as office 2003 as far as I want... which is the problem? Nobody said that docx would be retro-compatible, and office had the SAME format since 97-2003! I just hope OpenOffice will change it's user interface (with taskpane, live preview, etc) to keep his most diffused competitor, and - maybe - go on and become even better than it. But until then... well. I simply LOVE office, and I think it’s the best piece of software in the world.
No, i’m not a microsoft fanatic, I use linux for development and openoffice too… but honestly MS Office has a user experience out of the world. I use office2007, and can save as office 2003 as far as I want… which is the problem?
Nobody said that docx would be retro-compatible, and office had the SAME format since 97-2003!

I just hope OpenOffice will change it’s user interface (with taskpane, live preview, etc) to keep his most diffused competitor, and - maybe - go on and become even better than it. But until then…

]]> by: Christopher Davis http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-24395 Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:34:59 +0000 http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/2007/06/03/compatability-problems-with-word-2007/#comment-24395 Maybe it's time they tried OpenOffice. You can download that and many other things from the links on my website. www.chrisdavistech.com Maybe it’s time they tried OpenOffice. You can download that and many other things from the links on my website.

www.chrisdavistech.com

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