Peter Sheltrum writes:
I am using what I think is a very standard system with three machines networked over WiFi using all Netgear equipment.
The desktops are fitted with USB WiFi cards.
I have been unable to find a version of Linux that will load and go on one of these desktops. All load and go as standalone with no problem but none will connect to the network.I have wasted money on Linspire and Ubuntu. I am quite computer literate but very lazy so need a simple “non techie” solution.
Does such a solution exist ?
I’ve found Ubuntu to be very good on most hardware (and free, incidentally!), but I have had to build drivers for one very recent WiFi card, and USB ones tend not to be so well-supported. Most Linux distributions do have hardware compatibility lists - the Ubuntu one for wifi cards is here. The latest version of Ubuntu (’Breezy Badger’) supports quite a few more than its predecessor, so might be worth a try if you used an older version.
Without wanting to start too technical a discussion here, can anybody help Peter or suggest possible next steps? Good places to ask about hardware compatibility?
9 Responses
John the sad Geek
15|Dec|2005 1Yes I have the PERFECT solution. Usually LINUX will have no problems with wired ethernet adapters onboard sooooo…. Your easy solution: the WGE101 from netgear, it is a ‘G’ wireless to ethernet bridge. Buy a used one from justdeals.com and save a bundle, only 40$! If you have any desktop (Linux-Mac-Win95-WinXP) or really any laptop or whatever this is perfection. Some of the useless software for windows doesn’t work but since you can easily config it from ANY web browser you don’t need their useless front end. I bought them for my workplace and the signal strength is awsome better then just about every other wireless adapter I’ve used and of course you can position it where ever you like for best signal. Whenever I need to fix some ancient laptop or desktop I just attach one to the ethernet port on the computer and violla DHCP takes care of everything else. It works well with 802b networks. I regulaly backup computers and wheras my older USB belkin adapter would regularly hang this has yet to. It is sometimes working for 6+ hours DL gigs of data! This product has really been a godsend there are other similar ones but their performance in mixed B and G situations is bad, they are unstable, or they are much more pricey than this little darlin.
Tuckson
15|Dec|2005 2Hi,
WGE101 sounds like a nice work-around, but still it feels like a work-around to me for something that actually just should work. Of course, the first finger is to be pointed to the lazy manufacturers, which refuse to write decent drivers for linux.
And yes, there’s ndiswrapper. Also a workaround, but it works! but only when one succeeds in installing it. And here I have to agree with Peter, for the average man this is way to much work. I too am quite experienced in using the computers. But being experienced herin does not mean hassling aroudn with drivers is one of my hobbies.
Why not make a nice installscript for ndiswrapper? This would take a pretty large part of Peter’s (and mine) grieves away.
Klaas
20|Dec|2005 3Hi,
I had a lot of problems getting wireless to work in Fedora and Debian, although I did get there in the end. Recently I installed SUSE 9.3, I was already dreading having to do the wireless setup all over again however I was presently surprised when it worked straight out of the box without a hitch (including security).
Good luck with it!
dClam
02|Jan|2006 4Um, Ubuntu does not cost money.
Mike
10|Feb|2006 5Hey, all you need to do us follow the steps on NDISWRAPPER, follow this link to a T and you should be in luck. http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
Newbie advocate geek
26|Apr|2006 6First of all, what magically OS does a better job than Ubuntu. Just because Win98 had a wide selection of now old drivers on a memory leaking OS doesn’t means “Windows” (or “Mac” for that matter) has zero problems. Windows XP pro sp2 updated still doesn’t “just work” like everyone think it does.
Yes, nothings perfect. Yes we should al work toward making it “just work”. The complexities of what we expect our personal computers to do today is massive and growing. New hardware will always have rough edges on any system.
The assumtion is, when one device does eventually work in XP(for example,) and the same does not in Ubuntu 5.10(Specifically for example) people tend to think less of ubuntu. But hold on. SOME of the chip-set manufacturers are in fact, Linux hostile. They won’t even allow open development, for fear of Microsoft’s(and their minions) retaliation. So I agree, it should be easier but who’s causing it? To date, NDISwrapper and it’s point and click downloadable installer can use most XP drivers and it works. Plus, massive effort is taking place for new chip-sets.
The thing to remember is this: If NO USB WiFi devices worked with Ubuntu (and many do) then I’d still takeUbuntu for all the other devices that do, “just work” AND the better managed Ubuntu stable software set (and you can dual boot you old Windows by the way, and do it for no extra cost.)
The new hard thing is, some (Belkin) products are not only changing chip-sets faster than their shorts, their also making it impossible to read the chip-set type.
So since in the end, you ultimately have to try a device and see, you best take the friendly posters advice and use a “Wireless ethernet bridge” AKA game adapter. If you really have to be mobile on a laptop AND do WiFi, get a Wireless Ethernet Bridge that also adapts the power needed from a USB port(just for power.)
In case you missed it, a WEB(..ridge) is driverless from your perspective. It’s drivers are internallly set and so is your Ethernet (via Crossover Net cable) plug in (hardwired NIC).
You see, these new devices are largely software driven and that leads to all manner of instabilities. A bridge doesn’t depend on your processor and it’s driver module.
So work through any cheap device you may have and remember, Windows takes more time to manage and needs a clean install. Not to metion tah Windows is not and can not be secured on the same level as Ubuntu.
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